M1/4L Elizabeth May = John Augustus Biesel.
(1843/5 - 1922) ( ? ? )
Elizabeth May, was the third child of John May's second marriage. Her mother was Rebecca Vickers nee Kitchenham and she was born in 1843/5 and christened at St. Botolph Without Aldgate on 24.6.1849. She died in 1922 and she married John Augustus Biesel, who was an artist and they lived in France. They had four sons and a daughter called Nina (presumably Georgina) Biesel. Nina was married in 1808 or 1809, to William Leach Lewis, the Head Master of Margate College; he died in about 1934. They had three children:
c.1 William Leach Lewis, born 1910, who lived in France and had a son called Peter William Leach Lewis;
c.2 Georgina Leach Lewis, born 1912 and
c.3 Beryl Leach Lewis, born 1921, who lived in USA. Beryl had two sons who spent their lives in USA; and Nina, too, lived there for some years.
Nina was one of Percy May's favourite cousins and Phillip remembers him speaking very fondly of her. She attempted to compile a May family tree but, as Peggy Groves mentions, was not very orderly. The information she recorded was given to Peggy's father and then came to her, so Peggy was able to assist us to a certain extent from this.
We have a small oil painting of a French scene done by J. A. Biesel, which we think is most attractive. It was given to us by Girlie Thomas and is much appreciated by both Phillip and me.
Victor May also had a painting done by him and given originally to Pomp. Victor mentioned that it was rumoured that his work had been exhibited at the Lourve.
In addition, there was a small water-colour picture of steam yachts on the Thames (they looked to me rather like small house boats) but I no longer recall for certain if Biesel was the artist. These boats were given by John May, one to each of his many daughters, as was remembered by Percy and Phillip. So, John May must have been a well-established and wealthy merchant by the time his family were adults. This picture was in Warwick's possession the last I knew of it.
M1/4.M William Walter May, born 1837 [?This is confusing as there seems to be a John May, born that year, from the first marriage] [in 1861, in his father's letter from Australia, he sends a kiss to Arthur and William, adding to tell them he has not forgotten them. Arthur would have been eight years old then]
(From Source IGI.CO25559 he was born before 24 June, 1849 and was christened on that date at St. Botolph without Aldgate)
M1/4.N Arthur Wellesley May, who was born in 1853 and died in 1910. His wife was called Mary Ann (?) and she was born in 1850 and died in 1930. They had four children
M1/5.Na Augustus William May
M1/5.Nb Edith May
M1/5.Nc Jack May, who had one daughter and
M1/5.Nd Amy May, who married ??? Mair and had one son.
M1/4. Charles May = Caroline Amelia Glessing.
(1840-1918) [m.1862] (1840 - 1922)
Charles John May, the eldest son of John May's second marriage, his wife being Rebecca May nee Kitchenham and he was born on 1st.July, 1840, at 6, Buckenham Street. Shortly thereafter, being baptised on 26.7.1840 at St. Mary Trinity, Newington, Southwark
[Most of the following records were traced by Sarah Jane Day nee Smith and relayed to me by Penny Waymark nee May; the original informant was Rebecca May nee Kitchenham and the address given was 6, Little Tower Street; dated 11 August 1840 or sent to me direct by Sarah Day.]
[Source] 1871 Census, [via Beryl Johnson, 1999]: he was aged 30 years, living at White Lane, Southwark and a clerk at an Iron Works.
From Birth Certificate of daughter, Florence Henrietta May in 1871, his occupation was Clerk of Ironworks
[Source] 1881 Census: he was aged 40 years, living at 31, Alexandra Road, Surrey and a Coal Traveller.
[Source] Marriage certificate of daughter, Florence Henrietta May and Charles Herbert Newman: in 1895 he was a Traveller.
[Source] Will of Charles May, 3.7.1917: Gross Value - 629 pounds, eleven shillings and nine pence. All to his wife Caroline Amelia May.
Charles May married in 1862, Caroline Amelia Glessing at All Saints Church, Haggerston, Middlesex . He was a coal salesman and a Commercial Traveller. (Their address at the time of their marriage was 9, Bay Street, Dalston). She was the daughter of a German Violin string manufacturer, John Glessing (whose address at the time of the marriage was Lea Cottage, Lea Street, Haggerstone) and of Harriet Glessing nee Cox. Caroline Glessing was born on 18.8.1840 and the address given on her birth certificate was 13, Gloucester Street, she died in 1922 probably at Woking.
[The family tradition claimed Caroline Amelia Glessing was born in Spain]
Census 1: 1851, Yes - 10 years
Census 2: 1871, White Lane, aged 30 years from Spitalfields [Source via Beryl Johnson]
Census 3: 1881, 31, Alexandra Road, Surrey, aged 40 [Source: Census 1881 CD]
Christening: 27.9.1840 at St. Mathew, Bethnal Green, London [Source: IGI: CO69693]
Charles John May died 12.5.1918 at 6. Douglas Road, Surbitan, Surrey
[Source: Will of Charles May, 1918.].
Peggy Groves wrote (8.12.71) that her Mother spoke of her seven aunts, each of whom had her own yacht in the days when the family were wealthy. [Presumable these seven aunts were the seven daughters of John (the Butter merchant), i.e. the sister and half-sisters of Charles. Those from the first marriage being Charlotte, Katherine, Jane, Margaret, Louisa Matilda, Adelaide Eliza and (from the second marriage) Elizabeth, who married John Augustus Biesel] Peggy added, "I think the May (males) were very good at making money, but not so good at keeping it. Our grandfather certainly made plenty, but gambled most of it away. Our grandmother certainly came from a wealthy family and a more genteel one. As a child she used to travel to and from school in her own pony trap." Peggy also mentioned that Flo Glessing lived in Orchard Cottage, Sandhurst Lane, Whydown Little Common, Cooden, near Bexhill, Sussex.
When Charles May was 21(in 1861) his father wrote from Melbourne, Australia to his sister, Charlotte, saying: "there is no doubt but Charles will get on if he minds. He is a clever fellow, but rather a bad temper."
The story of the yachts was known to Phillip as well but may have been embellished!
Victor May remembered visiting his grandparents at Woking, 'they were typically the old fashioned kind, meant to be respected, etc. I also went to Grandfather's funeral from the house in Woking, I think. [Victor thought he died at New Malden, Surrey and was probably buried at Kingston-on-Thames]
But Phillip is of the opinion that his grandfather, Charles, was buried in Kingston-on-Thames as he seems to remember going to the cemetery and seeing the grave stone there. (In any case, all these towns are very close together)